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GTK3 - What bugs are important

Thomas Singer
Hi all,

A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g.
<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=526621>, seem not to be
fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7
build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages,
most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all
available text file encodings. It is following bug

<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=489640>

and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the
moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others
have reported >1min.

I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support
machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).

Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users
from switching to GTK3 in the current state.

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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Andrey Loskutov
Hi,

I agree, GTK3 is still not as stable as GTK2. On RHEL 7.2 is is usable
inside IDE (4.6.3) for daily work of our lab, but with some glitches
here and there. Right now we have only one critical issue (on RHEL 7.2),
that is with https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=370215, and
this is with all 4.x versions we used (4.6.3, 4.7.1, 4.8).

Here is my query for GTK3 bugs:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&classification=Eclipse&component=SWT&list_id=16974223&order=bug_id%20DESC&product=Platform&query_based_on=GTK3%20open&query_format=advanced&short_desc=gtk3&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr

I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers" and
link all the "really bad" bugs to it. This way it will not get lost and
we will see some kind of GTK3 status. I've just created
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=527444 exact for this purpose.

Am 18.11.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Thomas Singer:

> Hi all,
>
> A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g.
> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=526621>, seem not to be
> fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7
> build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages,
> most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all
> available text file encodings. It is following bug
>
> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=489640>
>
> and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the
> moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others
> have reported >1min.
>
> I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support
> machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).
>
> Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users
> from switching to GTK3 in the current state.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Thomas Singer
> =============
> syntevo GmbH
> http://www.syntevo.com
> http://www.syntevo.com/blog
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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Daniel Megert
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> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers"

https://bugs.eclipse.org/516839

Dani



From:        Andrey Loskutov <[hidden email]>
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Date:        18.11.2017 14:54
Subject:        Re: [platform-swt-dev] GTK3 - What bugs are important
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Hi,

I agree, GTK3 is still not as stable as GTK2. On RHEL 7.2 is is usable
inside IDE (4.6.3) for daily work of our lab, but with some glitches
here and there. Right now we have only one critical issue (on RHEL 7.2),
that is with
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D370215&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=Dhv_tsAi276r0SicYAHWKqhlxOesjQ1dCbjDId-DH4w&e=, and
this is with all 4.x versions we used (4.6.3, 4.7.1, 4.8).

Here is my query for GTK3 bugs:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_buglist.cgi-3Fbug-5Fstatus-3DUNCONFIRMED-26bug-5Fstatus-3DNEW-26bug-5Fstatus-3DASSIGNED-26bug-5Fstatus-3DREOPENED-26classification-3DEclipse-26component-3DSWT-26list-5Fid-3D16974223-26order-3Dbug-5Fid-2520DESC-26product-3DPlatform-26query-5Fbased-5Fon-3DGTK3-2520open-26query-5Fformat-3Dadvanced-26short-5Fdesc-3Dgtk3-26short-5Fdesc-5Ftype-3Dallwordssubstr&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=yyMXMGVdw_NQiLEmXT2cpG4-4TKpvuMfK1U_cEv4vOs&e=

I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers" and
link all the "really bad" bugs to it. This way it will not get lost and
we will see some kind of GTK3 status. I've just created
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D527444&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=0OhXCk_FwHvzMEnIjkm6VxG_MIDrE0BEDZAXrqjw_TM&e=exact for this purpose.

Am 18.11.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Thomas Singer:

> Hi all,
>
> A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g.
> <
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D526621&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=Y46KU-qk3s24JmcRaxuhqGlmucrqTt7v8z7SO9gNk7I&e=>, seem not to be
> fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7
> build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages,
> most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all
> available text file encodings. It is following bug
>
> <
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D489640&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=aJoZH8T9UzUhrUfzT-WmBt1f4j2Cnp6MfcUW3C1ykSM&e=>
>
> and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the
> moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others
> have reported >1min.
>
> I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support
> machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).
>
> Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users
> from switching to GTK3 in the current state.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Thomas Singer
> =============
> syntevo GmbH
>
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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Thomas Singer
Hi Daniel,

Could you please add the "Depends on"-dependency for bug 489640 to bug
516839? Thanks in advance.

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On 2017-11-20 10:24, Daniel Megert wrote:

>> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers"
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/516839
>
> Dani
>
>
>
> From:   Andrey Loskutov <[hidden email]>
> To:     [hidden email]
> Date:   18.11.2017 14:54
> Subject:        Re: [platform-swt-dev] GTK3 - What bugs are important
> Sent by:        [hidden email]
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree, GTK3 is still not as stable as GTK2. On RHEL 7.2 is is usable
> inside IDE (4.6.3) for daily work of our lab, but with some glitches
> here and there. Right now we have only one critical issue (on RHEL 7.2),
> that is with
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D370215&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=Dhv_tsAi276r0SicYAHWKqhlxOesjQ1dCbjDId-DH4w&e=
> , and
> this is with all 4.x versions we used (4.6.3, 4.7.1, 4.8).
>
> Here is my query for GTK3 bugs:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_buglist.cgi-3Fbug-5Fstatus-3DUNCONFIRMED-26bug-5Fstatus-3DNEW-26bug-5Fstatus-3DASSIGNED-26bug-5Fstatus-3DREOPENED-26classification-3DEclipse-26component-3DSWT-26list-5Fid-3D16974223-26order-3Dbug-5Fid-2520DESC-26product-3DPlatform-26query-5Fbased-5Fon-3DGTK3-2520open-26query-5Fformat-3Dadvanced-26short-5Fdesc-3Dgtk3-26short-5Fdesc-5Ftype-3Dallwordssubstr&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=yyMXMGVdw_NQiLEmXT2cpG4-4TKpvuMfK1U_cEv4vOs&e=
>
>
> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers" and
> link all the "really bad" bugs to it. This way it will not get lost and
> we will see some kind of GTK3 status. I've just created
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D527444&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=0OhXCk_FwHvzMEnIjkm6VxG_MIDrE0BEDZAXrqjw_TM&e=
> exact for this purpose.
>
> Am 18.11.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Thomas Singer:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g.
>> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D526621&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=Y46KU-qk3s24JmcRaxuhqGlmucrqTt7v8z7SO9gNk7I&e=
>> , seem not to be
>> fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7
>> build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages,
>> most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all
>> available text file encodings. It is following bug
>>
>> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D489640&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=aJoZH8T9UzUhrUfzT-WmBt1f4j2Cnp6MfcUW3C1ykSM&e=
>>
>>
>> and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the
>> moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others
>> have reported >1min.
>>
>> I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support
>> machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).
>>
>> Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users
>> from switching to GTK3 in the current state.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Thomas Singer
>> =============
>> syntevo GmbH
>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.syntevo.com&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=uwRQ9m2oY92j-WuEUCqhGPvySfYJI7VX9fMIVlCMOHc&e=
>
>>
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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Daniel Megert
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Done.

Dani



From:        Thomas Singer <[hidden email]>
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Date:        20.11.2017 10:47
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Hi Daniel,

Could you please add the "Depends on"-dependency for bug 489640 to bug
516839? Thanks in advance.

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Thomas Singer
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On 2017-11-20 10:24, Daniel Megert wrote:

>> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers"
>
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_516839&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=AW_i3AaKr7BYE6h0OEvKbhOYOCpVVEy3MgFxwjs1gec&s=1NosI4deC6tl-umq8e3Xi8ORlgvYG95SzFsD-iscySE&e=
>
> Dani
>
>
>
> From:   Andrey Loskutov <[hidden email]>
> To:     [hidden email]
> Date:   18.11.2017 14:54
> Subject:        Re: [platform-swt-dev] GTK3 - What bugs are important
> Sent by:        [hidden email]
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree, GTK3 is still not as stable as GTK2. On RHEL 7.2 is is usable
> inside IDE (4.6.3) for daily work of our lab, but with some glitches
> here and there. Right now we have only one critical issue (on RHEL 7.2),
> that is with
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D370215&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=Dhv_tsAi276r0SicYAHWKqhlxOesjQ1dCbjDId-DH4w&e=
> , and
> this is with all 4.x versions we used (4.6.3, 4.7.1, 4.8).
>
> Here is my query for GTK3 bugs:
>
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>
>
> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers" and
> link all the "really bad" bugs to it. This way it will not get lost and
> we will see some kind of GTK3 status. I've just created
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D527444&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=0OhXCk_FwHvzMEnIjkm6VxG_MIDrE0BEDZAXrqjw_TM&e=
> exact for this purpose.
>
> Am 18.11.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Thomas Singer:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g.
>> <
>
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>> , seem not to be
>> fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7
>> build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages,
>> most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all
>> available text file encodings. It is following bug
>>
>> <
>
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>>
>>
>> and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the
>> moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others
>> have reported >1min.
>>
>> I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support
>> machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).
>>
>> Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users
>> from switching to GTK3 in the current state.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Thomas Singer
>> =============
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>>
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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Leo Ufimtsev-2
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Once the webkit2 port is complete (hopefully shortly), I will try to investigate the showstoppers.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:06 AM, Daniel Megert <[hidden email]> wrote:
Done.

Dani



From:        Thomas Singer <[hidden email]>
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Date:        20.11.2017 10:47
Subject:        Re: [platform-swt-dev] GTK3 - What bugs are important
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Hi Daniel,

Could you please add the "Depends on"-dependency for bug 489640 to bug
516839? Thanks in advance.

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On 2017-11-20 10:24, Daniel Megert wrote:
>> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers"
>
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_516839&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=AW_i3AaKr7BYE6h0OEvKbhOYOCpVVEy3MgFxwjs1gec&s=1NosI4deC6tl-umq8e3Xi8ORlgvYG95SzFsD-iscySE&e=

>
> Dani
>
>
>
> From:   Andrey Loskutov <[hidden email]>
> To:     [hidden email]
> Date:   18.11.2017 14:54
> Subject:        Re: [platform-swt-dev] GTK3 - What bugs are important
> Sent by:        [hidden email]
>
>
>
> Hi,

>
> I agree, GTK3 is still not as stable as GTK2. On RHEL 7.2 is is usable
> inside IDE (4.6.3) for daily work of our lab, but with some glitches
> here and there. Right now we have only one critical issue (on RHEL 7.2),
> that is with
>
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> , and
> this is with all 4.x versions we used (4.6.3, 4.7.1, 4.8).
>
> Here is my query for GTK3 bugs:
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_buglist.cgi-3Fbug-5Fstatus-3DUNCONFIRMED-26bug-5Fstatus-3DNEW-26bug-5Fstatus-3DASSIGNED-26bug-5Fstatus-3DREOPENED-26classification-3DEclipse-26component-3DSWT-26list-5Fid-3D16974223-26order-3Dbug-5Fid-2520DESC-26product-3DPlatform-26query-5Fbased-5Fon-3DGTK3-2520open-26query-5Fformat-3Dadvanced-26short-5Fdesc-3Dgtk3-26short-5Fdesc-5Ftype-3Dallwordssubstr&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=yyMXMGVdw_NQiLEmXT2cpG4-4TKpvuMfK1U_cEv4vOs&e=
>
>
> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers" and
> link all the "really bad" bugs to it. This way it will not get lost and
> we will see some kind of GTK3 status. I've just created
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D527444&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=0OhXCk_FwHvzMEnIjkm6VxG_MIDrE0BEDZAXrqjw_TM&e=
> exact for this purpose.
>
> Am 18.11.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Thomas Singer:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g.
>> <
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D526621&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=Y46KU-qk3s24JmcRaxuhqGlmucrqTt7v8z7SO9gNk7I&e=
>> , seem not to be
>> fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7
>> build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages,
>> most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all
>> available text file encodings. It is following bug
>>
>> <
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D489640&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=g3BYSiOyqXSa1qNPD3mwySAqwCcvFfOco0JpWn2G4dc&s=aJoZH8T9UzUhrUfzT-WmBt1f4j2Cnp6MfcUW3C1ykSM&e=
>>
>>
>> and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the
>> moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others
>> have reported >1min.
>>
>> I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support
>> machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).
>>
>> Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users
>> from switching to GTK3 in the current state.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Thomas Singer
>> =============
>> syntevo GmbH
>>
>
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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Thomas Singer
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I've reported following bug:

<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=527536>

which definitely is a show-stopper with GTK3.

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On 2017-11-20 10:24, Daniel Megert wrote:
>> I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers"
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/516839
>
> Dani
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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Leo Ufimtsev-2
Thanks, I've replied to bug.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Thomas Singer <[hidden email]> wrote:
I've reported following bug:

<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=527536>

which definitely is a show-stopper with GTK3.

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On 2017-11-20 10:24, Daniel Megert wrote:
I would propose to create an umbrella bug with "GTK3 showstoppers"

https://bugs.eclipse.org/516839

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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

Thomas Singer
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Hello,

The bug "Bug 529563 - [GTK3] Tree does not repaint upon request"

<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=529563>

causes us some head-aches, because users think SmartGit 18.1 preview
(which defaults to SWT_GTK3=1) is slower than SmartGit 17.1 (which
defaults to SWT_GTK3=0). We had a longer discussion internally whether
we should switch back to SWT_GTK3=0. I'd really would appreciate GTK3
bugs reported with reproducible test case to be fixed rather sooner than
later - the SWT support on the Linux platform seems to be the least
stable from the 3 major platforms.

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On 2017-11-18 11:30, Thomas Singer wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g.
> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=526621>, seem not to be
> fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7
> build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages,
> most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all
> available text file encodings. It is following bug
>
> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=489640>
>
> and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the
> moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others
> have reported >1min.
>
> I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support
> machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).
>
> Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users
> from switching to GTK3 in the current state.
>
> --
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Re: GTK3 - What bugs are important

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On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Thomas Singer <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,

The bug "Bug 529563 - [GTK3] Tree does not repaint upon request"

<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=529563>

causes us some head-aches, because users think SmartGit 18.1 preview (which defaults to SWT_GTK3=1) is slower than SmartGit 17.1 (which defaults to SWT_GTK3=0). We had a longer discussion internally whether we should switch back to SWT_GTK3=0. I'd really would appreciate GTK3 bugs reported with reproducible test case to be fixed rather sooner than later - the SWT support on the Linux platform seems to be the least stable from the 3 major platforms.



Thank you for pointing out this issue and providing a snippet.
We're currently working on resolving Tree-related issues. Feel free to keep taps via the tree bug tracker:
531051 – (TreeTracker) [GTK3][Tracker] Tree issues Tracker
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=531051


 
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On 2017-11-18 11:30, Thomas Singer wrote:
Hi all,

A lot of GTK2 related bugs, e.g. <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=526621>, seem not to be fixed because GTK3 is favored. I've now tried with the latest SWT 4.7 build with our software and GTK3 and opening the preferences took ages, most likely because it contains 2 read-only comboboxes with all available text file encodings. It is following bug

<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=489640>

and these are the kind of bugs that prevent us from using GTK3 at the moment. Having to wait 10s to open a dialog is unacceptable - others have reported >1min.

I have not tried with SWT 4.8 yet, because that does not support machines any more that our users still use (e.g. CentOS/Redhat 6).

Maybe this thread can be used to collect the bugs that prevent users from switching to GTK3 in the current state.

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